tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post8428018005846244706..comments2023-05-14T04:47:37.210-07:00Comments on coin laundry: Question! About Shabbos . . . .C. Laundryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09458967193329329707noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post-41087822827818698802013-04-16T19:20:00.202-07:002013-04-16T19:20:00.202-07:00Great points Shilton! Can you give a quick transla...Great points Shilton! Can you give a quick translation of Sefirah Tiferet and Sefirah of Shechinah, please? My knowledge of Kabbalah is non-existent. C. Laundryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09458967193329329707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post-90003676660311146992013-04-15T13:13:12.054-07:002013-04-15T13:13:12.054-07:00A few thoughts...
1. I'm just speculating, bu...A few thoughts...<br /><br />1. I'm just speculating, but maybe the kabbalists made it a "mitzvah" to have sex on Fri nights because that was when they were actually home to do it? Maybe it was a practical thing or maybe they were trying to be thoughtful of their wives?<br /><br />2. If a Jewish babysitter on shabbos can be permitted by claiming that intent is irrelevant, how is it ok to permit actual shabbos melacha because of lack of intent, such as sweeping the floors on shabbos (gathering)? <br /><br />3. IMHO, the closest thing we have today to "building the temple" is raising money for the shul. This mostly happens on shabbos and holidays...Cali Girlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post-26434857746933300512013-04-15T07:54:30.957-07:002013-04-15T07:54:30.957-07:00As for your 4 yr old - he's being a 4 yr old. ...As for your 4 yr old - he's being a 4 yr old. While we try to teach our kids Shabbat rules, they are kids. My nephew - who gets into everything in general - has been known to blow out Shabbat candles while signing Happy Birthday, hack into our computer to watch Justin Bieber on YouTube, and get into other assorted mischief on Shabbat. There is a reason that little boys aren't actually held responsible for keeping mitzvot until they hit 13.<br /><br />Many religious people also have kids, so chances are that they can relate. [If they are so uptight that they can't, you don't want to be around them. I've been known to choose synagogues based on the antics of the rabbi's own children - if his kids are running on the bima or hanging from the rafters, chances are that nobody will have a fit if my kids act human.]Law momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01859590966207623757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post-40774053396651688532013-04-15T06:15:08.435-07:002013-04-15T06:15:08.435-07:00My understanding is that it's a mystical thing...My understanding is that it's a mystical thing, as you suggest.tesyaanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post-75526749933311601522013-04-15T06:03:17.993-07:002013-04-15T06:03:17.993-07:00You're assuming that the theory generated the ...You're assuming that the theory generated the practice. Whereas in reality the practice is based on the legalistic considerations of the Talmud with little concern about what the "spirit" of Shabbos is about. The Bible says that "melacha" (=labor) is forbidden on Shabbos. The Rabbis were concerned with defining this word and figuring out what legally constituted labor. To do this they relied on the fact that the building of the mishkan is also described with the Hebrew noun "melacha" (=melechet hamishkan). This being so the Rabbis figured that labor related to the mishkan was forbidden on shabbos. <br /><br />In later centuries people wanted to justify the practices of Shabbos and came up with cute theories as to why God would care whether we rip toilet paper or not but (as far as we know) these theories were not instrumental in generating the legal parameters of Shabbos. They are merely post hoc explanations for laws which were decided for other reasons. (This of course applies to many religious practices in Judaism and as well as other religions) <br /><br />Sex on shabbos doesn't break any of the 39 categories as mentioned above. The Kabbalistic reason for it (put very very briefly) is that the male Sefirah Tiferet is united (sexually) with the female Sefirah of Shechinah on Shabbos (because Shechinah is identified with Shabbos). Having sex on shabbos corresponds to the divine union above. Shilton HaSechelhttp://shiltonhasechel.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post-36742891179103619252013-04-14T22:42:23.066-07:002013-04-14T22:42:23.066-07:00I found the answer here:
http://www.thejc.com/jud...I found the answer here:<br /><br />http://www.thejc.com/judaism/rabbi-i-have-a-problem/68658/why-sex-allowed-shabbat<br /><br />The short answer is:<br /><br />1. It's not one of the 39 tasks associated with building the tabernacle.<br /><br />2. Pleasure between husband and wife is a good thing to encourage on Shabbat.Law momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01859590966207623757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post-13573706415476963162013-04-14T20:18:42.835-07:002013-04-14T20:18:42.835-07:00> Why is it a mitzvah to have sex on Shabbat ?
...> Why is it a mitzvah to have sex on Shabbat ?<br /><br />Some kabbalistic thing, I think. I never learnt about it. It may also just be practical. When else do you have nothing else that you need to be doing?<br /><br />> I don't quite get the jump from the "theory" of resting based on emulating to God, to the "practice", of not emulating the tabernacle builders.<br /><br />Keeping Shabbos is mentioned in the Chumash next to the instructions for how to construct the mishkan (tabernacle). In the rules of extrapolating laws from the text, this means that the two are related, and we can learn about one from the other. <br />G*3https://www.blogger.com/profile/06104739087560005056noreply@blogger.com