tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post7457124306948503605..comments2023-05-14T04:47:37.210-07:00Comments on coin laundry: Why Be Orthoprax? Interview with Undercover KoferC. Laundryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09458967193329329707noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post-51490340588621008632014-10-16T10:26:13.411-07:002014-10-16T10:26:13.411-07:00And when you become unsure about the truth of what...And when you become unsure about the truth of what you teach, /a/ how do you still have the right to teach it as truth? /b/ and how do you still have the right to accept the social rewards (the approval from the community, the approval/pleasure from your children, etc.) of teaching it as truth?KateGladstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07062492442607584456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post-62927573794819131662012-06-11T18:50:14.870-07:002012-06-11T18:50:14.870-07:00Thanks Jeff!!Thanks Jeff!!C. Laundryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09458967193329329707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post-56050568225188011032012-06-08T11:23:03.214-07:002012-06-08T11:23:03.214-07:00This was an insightful and fascinating interview. ...This was an insightful and fascinating interview. Thank you!Rabbi Jeffrey Falickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02973331979300912844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post-21256777154932502182012-05-08T19:43:33.284-07:002012-05-08T19:43:33.284-07:00UK,
I also have a hard time with Shabbos meals an...UK, <br />I also have a hard time with Shabbos meals and socializing all the time in the frum community simply because the whole time I'm holding in thoughts I have about the topic being discussed. It's sooooo draining.....and thinking about a lifetime of it is so depressing.Cali Girlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post-56260349417284446452012-05-08T10:39:44.577-07:002012-05-08T10:39:44.577-07:00#16-17
Maybe it's different in Western Europe...#16-17<br /><br />Maybe it's different in Western Europe, but most adult MO Jews in the US are tuned into the mainstream culture and interact normally with the opposite sex. By normally, I mean as well as non-frum and non-Jewish people, most of whom operate far less smoothly than movies and TV might have you think. I would say that the majority of non-Jewish men also don't have "a half a clue how to approach women."sortaBTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post-47753186282247603872012-05-06T22:08:49.494-07:002012-05-06T22:08:49.494-07:00Great interview UK!
G*3 - I agree with every word ...Great interview UK!<br />G*3 - I agree with every word you wrote, I do indeed thoroughly enjoy Shabbos meals with the family, and shul for me is actually enjoyable even without the social aspects! - I guess I just like the liturgy and the time with my own thoughts. <br />I also grew up in a MO home and I'm probably as well versed in popular culture as 95% of the American public (including much of the worthless junk I've absorbed from it). I think I still have problems associating with secular/non-Jewish people, mostly because I am a very private and reserved person, but no doubt the insular attitude of the Yeshivish society I decided to switch to has much to do with that too.<br />And then there is the issue of what to tell the kids... this is indeed a particular thorny problem - especially considering that we live in a Chareidi community in Jerusalem, not a place known for it's acceptance of "other" views. And considering that we CHOSE this place because of our beliefs (at the time) that this would be best conducive to raising the children with "truth". But what do you do when you discover the "truth" is a moving target? People who are certain about what they teach have it very easy. The educator with the most difficult job of all is the one who is utterly unsure about the truth of what he's teaching.chaynobodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01555831452024893892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5271798377281094957.post-45700606954567902922012-05-06T20:12:11.075-07:002012-05-06T20:12:11.075-07:00> - Having to spend so many hours in shul on Sh...> - Having to spend so many hours in shul on Shabbos and at the table, just wasting time and stuffing myself<br /><br />For me, these are things that I enjoy. Not the hours in shul per se, but the socializing that comes with going to shul on Shabbos. And Shabbos meals are great family/social time. Sure, it’s time consuming, but what else would I be doing that’s more worthwhile? Watch TV? Work? Mow the lawn? That’s what I do all week. Somehow, even though I value spending time with my family far more than, say, painting one more room, during the week I spend more time painting and less time playing with my kids. Shabbos forces me to engage with family and friends, and I think that’s a good thing.<br /><br />> - Having to answer my kid's questions (such as 'when the mashiach comes, this or that person will come back to life again, right daddy'?)<br /><br />I find that the hardest thing. When my five-year-old talks about Hashem, I’m torn between awing over the cuteness of her childish conception of Him and cringing at her indoctrination.<br /><br />> Walking around with a kippah. Somehow I feel like I am announcing to everyone I am an idiot by just wearing one.<br /><br />Maybe it’s different in Europe, but here in the US people give an inordinate amount of respect to people who are obviously religious. Only the most shallow and militant atheists would think you’re an idiot simply because they see you wear a yarmulkah. And I don’t think there are very many such people. <br /><br />> Culturally: Movies, language (esp. slang), fashion, etc.<br /><br />Are you talking about yourself? You describe your upbringing as MO. I grew up in a liberal yeshivish family, and I watched the same movies as anyone in the general culture, spoke the same way (“yeshivish” aside), etc. Is the MO community where you grew up very insular?G*3https://www.blogger.com/profile/06104739087560005056noreply@blogger.com